Mike Caro

Hey!  I have like, an account.  Wow!  I feel so special!  Thanks Mike!

I'm not that experienced live.  I was playing a lot, then stopped and then restarted when Foxwoods improved the quality of dealers.  ANYWAY – sheesh I talk too much – here's a hand I got berated for and I'd like to get some advice from people who play live and remember "no fold em hold 'em.

The situation is: I'm oop, and I have been cleaning up, just killing these poor guys with like, three FHs when they had nut flushes, that kind of thing.  Al and Bert would both like to beat me to death with a stick.  

I am holding 9c8c and there are 6 to the flop unraised when the board comes

Qs Ts 7c  

I ck, Al bets,  Bert calls, call,  I call  4 to the turn

Qs Ts 7c 6c  

I don't think they even notice the staright is on the board. I check hoping to get all thre to stay in and get a check/raise on the river because Bert if such a station.  Also, Bert will be calling a flush draw here, soo some pot cpontrol is in my mind, too.  Al bets, Bert calls, fold, I call.  3 to the river.

Qs Ts 7c 6c Jd.

RATS!! Al isn't betting out on a draw but Bert is certainly calling with one, but is such a bad LAG, not a good one, you know, just keeps betting with nothing hoping people fold, but even a bad LAG plays K9o and calls down, so, I check.  Al cks, Bert bets … I…. sigh…and….call. Al folds.

Before you read on: would you raise here?

…………………………………..

 Bert has 2pr, I win.

I am in Seat 10.  Seat 9, who was a good solid player, is beside himself because I didn't check/raise the river.  I wanted to raise – but – oh well, shoot. 

So what's the verdict?  Too risk averse?  Protecting my win?  FPS?  

MIke Surel said:

 

The only problem with raising in that spot is that AsKs or Ks9s got there on the river. Both possible hands. Granted it is limit and you aren't losing much more by raising there because all you would likely want to do to a re-raise is call, But I don't think you end up winning any more money by raising, and calling is the less risky. To me winning the same amount with less risk is a good thing. If you are last to act I think you raise, but with 1 or more players behind you, I think you want to just call there most of the time.

Thanks, Mike, nice post!

I go back and forth on that river call. I have done this online, flat-called a good but not nut hand, to get opponents to be less likely to bluff rivers at me in future.   But this was just rank cowardice. Can you have PTSD from getting sucked-out on?  LOL! 

If the river had been a blank, I think the turn check/call would have paid off.  Oh well.  As Fricke says: "Bet your damn hand!"