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Posted 10/20/2006 6:39:32 PM


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 i     dont know how many roulette players there are out there,  but i  have a crazy  little system and i  was wondering if anyone has tried anything similiar i   have  not yet got busted doing this. i  know it  is likely to be a matter of time  but so far so good, so here is it: ok  i have all  38 numbers on the wheel memorized in order and  what  i do is put the 38 numbers into 3 categories i  call them  my  A, B,  and C  groups each group has 14 numbers in it and what  i do after one group hasnt  hit within at least 6 spins i then start betting that group doing a progression betting  system until it hits and since i am betting every 3rd number all the way around the wheel i  have alot of it covered  at a time these are $1.00 bets i start off with and    i always hit within 5 spins and  by the way if it goes past 8 spins i am out $475.00 but hasnt happened yet it did go 7 spins one time  but i got away  from  my   rules and  made a mistake so it  was me that was wrong in that case the rule is that when dealers change start counting over only after new dealer has made at least 8 spins then start looking for the groups that are not being hit at that time,  now betting dollars this averages me about 5.50 per spin for every time i  do this and i am doing this i say about  20 spins per hour ($110.00 per hour) i  think they are getting about 50 spins per hour. the rest of the time i  am  either betting on first second or third twelve set of numbers  it  keeps me  mostly about even or a little behind,  but anyway does anyone else who plays roulette do this and if so  have they got busted yet or have any other suggestions  but to  me if it works  dont mess with it i got a good average and it is gambling  but i am a gambler...

by the way  knowing all 38 numbers in order and being able to quickly recall them  is a great tool  in this game i  made flash cards to  teach myself, and i can quickly tell you what any number  is next to and it  makes a difference in this game believe me..

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Posted 10/20/2006 8:10:00 PM
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Interesting, but still losing money in the long run. And so all your hard work memorizing the order is just something you can show off for fun, because it's not making you any money.

1) Every spin is independent of the ones before it. Looking for a group that gets hit or not won't do you any good unless the wheel isn't good, but they'll spot that.

2) Breaking the wheel down into 3 sections instead of 38 will only lower your variance, I believe, but not change your profits one bit. If we played this with dice (or just one, so only 6 sides to choose from), do you think it would make any sense?

3) Progressive betting only serves to help you have many mediocre nights and a few almost-makes-you-suicidal nights. Otherwise, it's a waste of thinking energy.

4) There is absolutely NO system that will win in roulette. Every bet you make has a -EV associated with it. Making many of these bets in increasing dollar amounts will not turn it into a +EV experience.

So if you're playing to win, give up. If you're playing to have fun, why such an elaborate system? All you really need to do is bet on red or black, and maybe a few numbers.


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Posted 11/4/2006 8:41:24 PM


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if you play roulette and if your interested here is exactely what i do. try if on a computer casino game if you have one i use hoyle casino to  practice, so here it goes.

groups:

A: 0-00-2-3-8-9-11-13-18-22-23-25-32-33

B: 0-00-1-6-7-16-17-19-24-26-27-29-34-35

C: 0-00-4-5-10-12-14-15-20-21-28-30-31-36

that is every third number on the wheel covered and the house 0's & 00's

that is my 3 groups of 14 numbers each group, like i said before i wait til one group hasnt hit for at least 6 or 7 spins then i bet that particular group the betting goes:

1 unit

1 unit

2 units

3 units

5 units

7 units

12 units

going home..

the rules on this for me are so strict i only do it a few times per hour, the rules are....

1. dont do it after a long pause in the action ( a extended payout)

2. dont do it if the dealers change when dealers change start all over only after 5 or 6 spins then count down to your  6 or 7 spins  with no group hit then bet it.

3. if the dealer has a strong signature with their spin (patterns in the  spin maybe hitting the same side of the wheel with the ball) dont do it this works best when the spins are random

4.   dont force a bet play red black or something else cheap until it  starts going your way patience in this is everything.

now of course i  know roulette spins are completely random even though i  have seen and even had a dealer work with me hitting areas of the board alot of experienced dealers can do it,  and they like to be rewarded for their skill of hitting  certain numbers of areas of the wheel it is called wheel watching i did it for a while but i suffer from brain pollution  so too much concentration for me  especially with al the distractions at the casino, so  i came up with a different way to play, now  nothing is for sure to play $1 it costs 475.00 and if you aint willing to gamble dont ever do it it is risky, but if you got a computer casino game try thses numbers out and see  if you win way more than you lose..

if you  want to  gamble and  risk 475.00 i recommend sitting in the middle of the lay-out. i  lay chips out starting with the 0's  and working my way down to the bigger numbers, that is why i have them set up in that order..also  during the spin set up your chips for the next round assuming you miss and  have to try again, it saves alot of time and confusion,  but unless you can   afford it  i dont recommend this it is risky but hey so is getting in my car and driving down  to work everyday..

 

PATIENCE- PATIENCE- PATIENCE  without it you will lose might lose anyway but no patience will make you lose sooner.....

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Posted 11/4/2006 8:48:50 PM


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i forgot to add with  betting 14 numbers your covering 36.84% of the wheel and you got 7 chances to  hit it,

7 x 36.84=257.88%

not bad odds  about the same   odds   of chasing a open end flush on the flop in poker would it hit in 7 tries? not that i recommend chasing.. ( in poker)

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Posted 11/5/2006 2:05:37 PM
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howie6769 (11/4/2006)
i forgot to add with  betting 14 numbers your covering 36.84% of the wheel and you got 7 chances to  hit it,

7 x 36.84=257.88%

not bad odds  about the same   odds   of chasing a open end flush on the flop in poker would it hit in 7 tries? not that i recommend chasing.. ( in poker)

Ummm, that's quite interesting math there. Probably the only way to make this system appear profitable.


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Posted 11/5/2006 3:16:58 PM


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the only thing i have left to say about this is it is

"for entertainment purposes only"

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Posted 1/22/2007 6:34:09 AM
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Why then not bet on all numbers the same time?
37chances and 100% of the numbers=370%
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